Black and White and Thin Blue Lines
"We refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt.” Black and White and Thin Blue Lines is an original podcast created by two former police officers, Serge Antonin and Clarke Ahlers, who are inspired by the hopeful words of the Reverend Martin Luther King. Serge Antonin is African American. Clarke Ahlers is Caucasian. The podcast is a discussion about current issues in criminal justice and law enforcement, especially where these issues intersect the topic of race.
Episodes
117 episodes
The 25th Amendment and Presidential Disability
Join summer intern and law clerk Lauren Pountnay, Serge Antonin, and Clarke Ahlers as they veer off the beaten path of criminal justice issues to discuss something that everybody is talking about: the 25th Amendment to the United States Constit...
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Season 4
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Episode 5
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36:48
Say her name: Rachel Morin
Say her name: Rachel Morin. On August 5th, 2023, Rachel -- a mother of five -- was murdered while exercising on the Ma & Pa Heritage Trail in Hartford County, Maryland. Rachel's family turned to Maryland attorney Randolph Rice, the managing...
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Season 4
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Episode 4
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42:21
Live from the United States Courthouse in Wilmington, Delaware: The Biden Trial
Join Serge and Clarke and special guest Lauren Pountnay for this podcast about the Hunter Biden trial. Lauren is a rising senior at N.C. State. She is Clarke's intern/law clerk for the summer of 2024. Lauren and Clarke attended one day of the H...
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Season 4
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Episode 3
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44:24
Diddy's Bad Boy Record
In this episode, Serge and Clarke discuss a video of Sean "Diddy" Combs assaulting Cassandra "Cassie" Ventura in the hallway of the L.A. InterContinental Hotel in 2016 as well as the recent Homeland Security search warrant raids on Diddy owned ...
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Season 4
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Episode 2
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35:16
Season IV -- Episode One: Okaloosa Shooting Death & Marilyn Mosby's Sentencing
Serge and Clarke begin Season IV with a discussion of the tragic shooting death of a United States Airman in his own home by a Deputy Sheriff in Okaloosa, Florida. Then Serge and Clarke discuss the efforts of Marilyn Mosby and her supporters, i...
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Season 4
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Episode 1
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44:55
Artificial Intelligence Used in Genuine Stupidity and Crime!
In Baltimore County, Maryland a man has been arrested and accused of creating and publishing a recording that purported to be a high school principal making offensive racial remarks to the vice-principal. This is the new world of artificial int...
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Season 3
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Episode 52
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26:10
The Kenny Somers Story -- A Baltimore Tale -- Part 2
In part 2 of the podcast, Kenny Somers reflects on the arrest, his incarceration, and his thoughts on the past and future of Baltimore.
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Season 3
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Episode 51
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39:03
The Kenny Somers Story -- a Baltimore Tale of a Broken Criminal Justice System
Imagine the following story. "John Doe" steals a car -- or more accurately, John Doe steals the same car two times. The car owner, Kenny Somers, a professional automobile recycler, recovers the car the first time and attempts to recover the car...
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Season 3
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Episode 50
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47:15
The Inside Skinny on a Jury Trial in Manatee County, Florida
Join Serge and Clarke as they share Nathan Steelman's experience sitting as a juror in judgment of a woman charged with domestic violence in Florida. You have heard the expression "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6." (Clarke di...
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Season 3
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Episode 49
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48:45
The Tragic Death of NYPD Police Officer Jonathan Diller
Serge and Clarke comment in the murder of Ofc. Diller and update the listeners on renewed efforts on the Columbia Project. Worth a listen.
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Season 3
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Episode 48
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33:54
Stand Your Ground Doesn't Legalize Illegal Deadly Force
Serge and Clarke celebrate Easter. We have friends who have a blessed Ramadan. We have friends who we will wish Happy Passover in several weeks. We have re-uploaded an episode. We will be back next week with a brand new episode.In rural...
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Season 3
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Episode 1
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44:15
If Only There Was a Way for Civilians to Experience "Shoot Don't Shoot."
Law Enforcement firearms training has historically emphasized reaction time and marksmanship. But the decision to shoot or don't shoot is the most fundamental choice the police officer faces in highly stressful situations. For the most pa...
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Season 3
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Episode 47
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33:29
Seize the Day But Don't Necessarily Take the Bonus
At the request of a listener, Serge and Clarke offer their advice to young people without law enforcement experience who wish to apply to become police officers. People: this is solid advice from two men who have been there.
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Season 3
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Episode 46
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34:59
Seven Seconds and One Shot Into a Burglary Investigation and Melvin Jay is Dead.
February 1, 2024 -- Prince George's County, Maryland. Prince George's County Police Officer Braxton Shelton is dispatched to a burglary in progress at an apartment in Suitland. He arrives within a minute of the dispatch, finds the apartment doo...
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Season 3
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Episode 45
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41:53
What's Worse Than a Criminal With a Handgun? A Criminal with a Glock andGlock Switch.
What is worse than a plethora of undereducated, jobless, and unfocused young men with semi-automatic handguns shooting at each other in cities across America? Answer: A group of undereducated, jobless, and unfocused young men with machine-guns ...
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Season 3
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Episode 44
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39:46
The CSI Checklist Phone App is the Preeminent Tool for Criminal Investigators
There IS something new under the sun! Tom Mauriello, the mastermind of FORENSIQ, has organized decades of law enforcement expertise in a CSI phone app that is exceptional, affordable, and practical. Any criminal justice stakeholder can access a...
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Season 3
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Episode 43
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42:34
Our 100th Episode -- Serge, Clarke, and our Listeners Reach a Milestone
The Black and White and Thin Blue Lines podcast began in spring of 2021 as the effort of Serge Antonin and Clarke Ahlers. The podcast concerns itself with issues of criminal justice, particularly at the intersection of race in America. Since th...
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Season 3
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Episode 42
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36:30
Maryland Fights Crime by Taxing Law Abiding Citizens and More.
The Maryland General Assembly proposes an excise tax on the sale of guns and ammunition, the Howard County Council debates a ceasefire in Gaza, and several state senators propose to eliminate good time credits for a very small number of convict...
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Season 3
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Episode 41
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42:24
A NY City Cop Gets a Complaint When He Doesn't Write a Ticket
Dateline Harlem: Friday night January 26, 2024 about 6:30 P.M. A NY City police officer stops city councilman Yosef Salaam for unlawful tinted windows on a BMW sedan. The officer was polite and professional and sent Mr. Salaam on his way ...
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Season 3
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Episode 40
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31:42
Teach Your Children Well
In 1968, Graham Nash, later of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, wrote a song about the difficult relationship he had with his father who was sent to jail for receiving stolen goods. The song “Teach Your Children” has beautiful lyrics includ...
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Season 3
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Episode 39
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38:26
Cop Flash Bangs Are Bad For Babies . . . or maybe not.
On the afternoon of January 10, 2024, more than 20 police officers in tactical gear carrying long arms and deploying flash bangs served a search warrant in Elyria, Ohio. Sure ... the usual stuff. You know. The guy the police were looking for ha...
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Season 3
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Episode 38
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29:37
A Man in Las Vegas Tries to Kill the Judge Who Sentences Him for a Crime of Violence
Serge often observes that America is declining into anarchy. Clarke is sometimes pessimistic. Serge and Clarke bring their inclinations to the story of a young man who jumped the bench in a Las Vegas courtroom and beat up the judge who was sent...
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Season 3
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Episode 37
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37:32
Maryland Police Claim Constitutional Protection for Juveniles Makes Their Job Harder
Almost six decades after the United States Supreme Court's landmark Miranda decision, police administrators in Maryland are claiming that a 2022 Maryland law that requires police adhere to Miranda during juvenile arrests is making their job mor...
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Season 3
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Episode 36
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32:37
The Baltimore Police Commissioner Orders Every Officer to Empathy Instruction.
Police Commissioner Worley has implemented 8 hours of empathy instruction for every Baltimore Police Officer. In this episode, Serge and Clarke discuss the instruction. Serge begins with the valid premise that it is a good idea for victims of t...
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Season 3
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Episode 35
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44:18
Mayor v ATF: Who cares who wins we just want to see a lot of hits!
This week, the Mayor of Baltimore filed suit in federal court against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. It turns out that ATF sends gun trace information to the Police Commissioner but does not send the same information t...
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Season 3
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Episode 34
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34:13